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Likely this question has been asked, but I'll ask it again anyways.

With PICO, you can create games. To run either in Lexaloffle's BBS or with HTM/.JS elsewhere.

Is there a way or is it planned that games might be compiled to true FLASH ? *.SWF.

I just uploaded my notepad cart to Kongregate to check it and, sure enough, it still has staggering issues. I will say ALL PICO programs I have seen since I arrived, all stagger in my Firefox browser.

Is there a way to fix this or is it an inherent trait of Java/LUA ?

What Flash programs I have written in the past - all run top-speed today and have never shown any Online hesitation.

P#29911 2016-10-03 20:15 ( Edited 2016-10-04 15:12)

I've never experienced this, and I've use Firefox and Chrome.

How bad is the staggering? Is it so obvious that anyone would notice?

I don't know about Flash, man. It's on the way out (because it was mainly proprietary maybe?) and HTML5 is on the way in. I looked at making things in Flash years ago and the free tools were not great and I didn't want to pirate anything. Is it still like that?

And Java? Don't confuse that with JavaScript. Two totally different languages. I don't think Java enters the picture for pico 8.

P#29922 2016-10-03 22:16 ( Edited 2016-10-04 02:16)

You can export a PICO 8 app as Javascript, Rytrasmi. (HTML 5 & JS).

I've made a few apps in Flash but that was MANY years ago. Checking where I posted them, however, they still run full speed - very nice.

The staggering of playing any carts, even in the BBS, is very noticeable here. Not so bad in Google Chrome.

Usually I just SPLORE to find new carts and try them there. Hitting [ESC] during SPLORE lets me look at the source of the last loaded cart.

If there is a way to export as FLASH, I think that might solve my problem here.

... no-one suggested I update my Java to current. I'm going to do that now and see if it helps any.

P#29923 2016-10-03 22:41 ( Edited 2016-10-04 02:41)

Yeah I know you can export to html and JavaScript.

Wondering where Java comes in, given that it's an entirely different thing to JavaScript, despite the similar names. Actually I'm not wondering. I don't think updating Java is your answer.

Updating Firefox on the other hand...have you tried that?

P#29924 2016-10-03 22:51 ( Edited 2016-10-04 02:54)

Well now you simply KNOW I didn't know the difference between JAVA and JAVASCRIPT, right ? :)

Firefox is up to date.
Updated Silverlight (shouldn't make a difference).
Update Java (for browser - let's see if that helps).

... ???

Ah ! What a difference ! Updating Java (not Javascript) apparently fixed that little problem of staggering - at a cost of audio. Audio is WAY behind, not synchronous at all.

Only EXE runs video and audio with correct timing it seems.

Besides this, I like Flash. It's self-contained, doesn't require a HTML to back it, and you can easily upload your .SWF to many Online game sites.

P#29925 2016-10-03 23:01 ( Edited 2016-10-04 03:10)

I didn't know. Either way your secret's safe with me.

Java is a ginormous browser extension provided by a third party (Oracle) while JavaScript is supported natively in the browser by whoever wrote the browser. I'm not sure if that statement is100% correct, but I think you could completely uninstall Java and pico 8's html+JavaScript cartridges would still work.

I'm still puzzled by your issue. If anything comes to mind I'll post here.

P#29926 2016-10-03 23:10 ( Edited 2016-10-04 03:10)

Thanks ... especially if there is a Javacript to Flash converter. I think that just might convert PICO.

P#29929 2016-10-03 23:24 ( Edited 2016-10-04 03:24)

Flash is generally considered a dying technology these days, so I wouldn't count on seeing an SWF exporter.

A mixture of being a proprietary product and constantly being a source of security flaws has made people move more to HTML5 for the same things.

P#29941 2016-10-04 02:43 ( Edited 2016-10-04 06:43)

But ... if HTML5 has hesitation and Flash never has AND the fact that there are MANY games posted in Online gaming sites that are flash ...
Did I miss anything ?

Let's try and decipher this then.

This is one of the more popular games I like to play Online.

http://www.kongregate.com/games/SoulGame/swords-and-souls.

What was it written in ? Flash, Javascript, or ... ?

P#29971 2016-10-04 11:12 ( Edited 2016-10-04 15:12)

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